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    I have lived with the 1572 for some time. My three word review is "DO NOT BUY." My four word review i suppose is "AVOID AT ALL COSTS." My five word? "A BUGGY PIECE OF CRAP."

    I will admit that while I bought a very nice SPL meter and calibrated mic and downloaded Room EQ Wizrd, I have not done a detailed tuning of my whole system. Frankly, I was kind of wiped out after getting everything set up and just wanted to watch and listen and let things break in for a while. But my complaint is not the sound. I love the sound. I bought it for the sound. In that regard it does not disappoint. And it's really pretty to look at. But there are so many software and firmware issues with this thing that it is just ridiculous, especially at this price point. As someone said on AVS Forum, "At $2K the 1572 is a very expensive pre pro and should be rock solid. Yes, the sound is good but it's a touchy peice of equipment that has not been well thought out. I have been a professional firmware engineer and hi tech executive for over 35 years and I would never allow a product with this many problems to be released." Rotel spends a lot of copy space bragging about the DSP power of the 1572 and yet it defaults to analogue audio at the change of every program, whether it's fast forwarding or pausing on TiVo, or starting a new song on a CD or an iPod using the USB port, or sometimes even TV cutting to a commercial. Then there are up to two seconds of silence before it figures out what to do. This is the same with an iPod or iPhone through USB, audio over HDMI or optical from the OPPO, or digital audio from the TiVo. It really doesn't matter.

    Additionally, there are a variety of repeated and one off bugs that can only be solved by restarting the machine like it was an old Commodore computer. (sorry, Jack.) The well-meaning and responsive support folks at B&W do what they can but this is an expensive engineering disaster that should never have been let out the door and, despite assurances, will probably never be fixed with a firmware or software update. The fact that this was ever put on the market is a sign of fundamental disrespect to the customers, like me, who trust the Rotel name and are willing to pay a little more for what, in my opinion, is superior sound to other offerings at this price point.

    I should have bought the Marantz. or bought up and gotten the Integra. the 1572 is a major disappointment.

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    Sorry to hear they still have not solved the firmware issues. I was actually considering buying this processor but decided to wait after you posted your experiences with it.

    Was there no indication when they would have a fix?

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    Tracy, I would definitely hold off. There is no indication of a fix coming anytime soon. Various owners have gotten emails that Rotel is aware of the problems and that they are being addressed but there is not any sense of when the fixes might come. It really is a shame, because it the potential is all there but either the resources were not devoted to development or the wrong people were hired or something. I bet the Outlaw will be ready before the Rotel is debugged.

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    With all this bad news, where would one look for a pre-pro, less than $2200, which will support calibration of two or more subs?

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    Well, the Marantz 7005 is a 7.2 system. Is it the lack of a manually controllable Parametric EQ (a great feature I should add which works like a charm.)

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    The AV7005 treats both subs as one, so you can not set separate parameters on each. I haven't found this to be a problem in my setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracy Rainwater View Post
    The AV7005 treats both subs as one, so you can not set separate parameters on each. I haven't found this to be a problem in my setup.
    Are your subs co-located or symmetric with respect to you? Otherwise I don't understand how you avoid distortion.

    I use an equalizer which SVS no longer promotes. It would be nice to only to do one set of calibrations.

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    I have one sub in the rear of my room and another, smaller sub, in the front. It's not ideal, but it is working fine for now. My long term goal is to have two smaller subs in the font, one on each side of my front sound stage. Right now, it is just a bit of an experiment so that I can run my SVSin its lowest native tuning at 12hZ, without loosing a ton of gain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen Trask View Post
    Well, the Marantz 7005 is a 7.2 system. Is it the lack of a manually controllable Parametric EQ (a great feature I should add which works like a charm.)
    Hi Stephen,

    I really don't want to learn how to equalize two subs. I have toys I would rather play with. I would like to have a prepro that will handle two subs while it's calibrating the speakers. Right now I go through two calibrations, one with the 7005 and then the SVS AS-EQ1 that works on the two subs. The AS-EQ1 made an enormous difference but SVS doesn't even list this device anymore.

    I recently purchased an EMM-6 calibrated mic, M-Audio MobilePre USB and TrueRTA Level 4 software. I'm waiting for a new laptop that's due in Monday to assemble and calibrate the new test gear.

    I've made upgrades to the media room and this time I want to see the before and after when I recalibrate the system.
    Last edited by k0rww; 04-22-2012 at 03:10 AM. Reason: clarity
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    Quote Originally Posted by k0rww View Post
    With all this bad news, where would one look for a pre-pro, less than $2200, which will support calibration of two or more subs?
    Take a look at the Onkyo PRO PR SC5508p ($2249 msrp), and the Integra 80.2/80.3 both support 2 subs in XT32.

    http://www.eiki.com/usa/products/onk...ers/pr-sc5508p

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