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    Senior Member Lefisc's Avatar
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    Should I switch to Krell Cast cables or stick to Transparent Balanced?

    Tomorrow I get my new Krell Cipher. I will have an opportunity to use the Krell Cast wires to connect it to my 707 and then use the cast wires to connect the 707 to the Krell amps.

    Currently I am using Transparent Balanced cables, but Krell so encourages the use of cast. The dealer will bring some topmorrow.

    Has any here used it? Does anyone have an opinion?
    Barry
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    I used to have the Evo 707 and used an Evo 403 then 403e amp for my front three in my main rig.

    I ran Transparent Reference balance interconnects and speaker cables, then upgraded to Ref XL. I tried the Krell CAST system, but was not impressed with them, especially compared to the Transparent cables I had. I know Krell touts it, and I have listened to Dan and Brett tell me WHY it should be better, but to my ears, it wasn't.

    Have your dealer bring them over and see for yourself, but for me, I stayed with the Transparent cables....

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    Thanks so much Kenny . If they let me sample them, I try them. I just hate paying so much for wires...and I don't know if it is worth it.
    Barry
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    : Krell 707 3D; Amp: (center) Krell 400e; Amp Fronts Krell 600e; Rears Proceed HPA-3; SACD: Krell Cipher; FM: Day Sequerra FM Reference; Blu-Ray: Oppo BDP 105; Speakers: Revel Ultima Salon 2; Center: Revel Voice 2; Rear/Back: Thiel Powerplanes; Subs: 2 SVS SB-13 Ultra; Turntable: VPI 19 Mk 4 w/Tonearm SME 309 & Audioquest 401i; HDTV: Verizon; Projector: JVC DLA-RS66U; Screen: Vue Tech 108; Internet Radio: Sonos; Remote: MX850; Pioneer Elite LDS-2 Laser Disc

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    I use Monoprice XLRs, but I'm a cheap ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefisc View Post
    Thanks so much Kenny . If they let me sample them, I try them. I just hate paying so much for wires...and I don't know if it is worth it.
    At the level of gear you have cables ARE a significant issue.. You already are using Transparent, and they are my favorite cables.. See what happens when you sub in the CAST cables, I tried this and stayed with Transparent.......

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    I've never owned equipment worthy of high-end cables. I find it very freeing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KennyT View Post
    At the level of gear you have cables ARE a significant issue.. You already are using Transparent, and they are my favorite cables.. See what happens when you sub in the CAST cables, I tried this and stayed with Transparent.......
    I am sort of curious, what sort of physical principle should one use to determine the "level of gear" that makes cables a SIGNIFICANT issue?

    Certainly it cannot be power, I has been to many any audio show where the most modestly rated amps were connected via the most costly of interconnects.
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    I have the “advantage” of not being capable of telling the difference between well-made cables and midlevel upper end. I use Monoprice XLRs cables like David. I use Transparent speaker cables for the front speakers. I recently changed to 3’ RedMere High Speed HDMI cables which greatly reduced the mess in the back of the audio cabinet. The RedMere HDMI cables are less than 1/8” thick and use electronics to compensate. I still have the old HDMI cables just in case.
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    I am not a cable guy, unless you are talking about TV reception. I have Verizon.

    don’t like to play around with wire. So why now? So why did I ask this question?

    I have transparent speaker cable and mostly BALANCED Transparent interconnects. The balanced go to my various amps and my Day Sequerra FM Tuner and CD player were connected that way. (So was my surround processor when I had a preamp). I had this wire for about ten years. I

    My phono input was my only single ended input. (Everything else is now digital).

    My new 707 has only ONE balanced input. I cannot plug in both my CD player and FM tuner balanced. The CD player would win this contest and the tuner would go single ended.

    So I would have to buy a good, matching, single ended transparent wire. (They do allow trade ins).

    OR I could connect the Krell Cipher using their cast cable and keep the Day Sequerra balanced. That was the best decision under the circumstances.

    Well, then, the Men from K.R.E.L.L. feel the amps should also be “cast” out. And since they were coming over a doing it I wondered should I try it?

    The comments here were mostly 50/50 with an edge towards give it a chance. But really, I am not a cable guy but I had to buy at least one interconnect.
    Barry
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    : Krell 707 3D; Amp: (center) Krell 400e; Amp Fronts Krell 600e; Rears Proceed HPA-3; SACD: Krell Cipher; FM: Day Sequerra FM Reference; Blu-Ray: Oppo BDP 105; Speakers: Revel Ultima Salon 2; Center: Revel Voice 2; Rear/Back: Thiel Powerplanes; Subs: 2 SVS SB-13 Ultra; Turntable: VPI 19 Mk 4 w/Tonearm SME 309 & Audioquest 401i; HDTV: Verizon; Projector: JVC DLA-RS66U; Screen: Vue Tech 108; Internet Radio: Sonos; Remote: MX850; Pioneer Elite LDS-2 Laser Disc

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    I'm a CAST proponent. I think the CAST cables are an excellent value compared to the competition once you have already made the investment in components that have CAST. Part of the reason why any of the Krell equipment with CAST connections costs so much is because of the CAST technology on board. My home theater is made up of wilson sasha's, 707, 600's and 403 and in my opinion CAST creates a very nice unified system sound. Not that these are world class cables, but I have compared CAST to straight wire serenade II and audioquest king cobra IC's and CAST is noticeably better than both. I used to have a 505 with CAST and wilson Maxx 3's in the system but that was before we separated the music and theater rooms. The music system is now Wilson Alexandria II's with Ayre electronics and Shunyata cables (long story). Hope that helps. One final point, the Nordost CAST cables are really thin which makes cable management easier.

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