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01-30-2017, 08:59 AM #1
1 out of 1 members found this post helpful.Immigration Ban - Make America Hate Again
So it has begun...
In 8 days of Dictator Trump, we've attacked one of the most sacred core values for all Americans.
Trump says that he will enact a "Muslim ban" and has done just that but says its not a Muslim ban despite all of the countries being banned are deeply Muslim.
Look at what CEOs are saying about this moronic action over at CNN.
Look at the companies founded by first or second generation immigrants:
- Apple
- IBM
- Uber
- Oracle
- Yahoo
- eBay
- Tesla
- AT&T
They make America great - not bigotry and hate.
And as for "Vetting" have you seen what it takes to get a green card? It ain't easy. A Canadian friend of mine who won a Stanley Cup in Anaheim in 2007 and lives in OC part of the year - has been waiting for YEARS to get his. Is he a threat to national security? Only if you are worried about him moving his millions of dollars to California and investing in businesses here.
And its only going to get worse from here.---
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01-30-2017, 09:59 AM #2
0 out of 1 members found this post helpful.Jerry,
First, stop spouting the Left's talking point that this is a MUSLIM BAN, it isn't. It's a list of countries that have a strong ISIS presence and the ban isn't permanent. It's for 120 days to put new procedures in place to screen applicants further. As for the Green Card process, I know exactly how it is because my wife is from Canada.
As for precedence, this has happened before with both Republican and Democrat administrations, so it's not "unprecedented," as I've heard on CNN. I suggest you read this: BREAKING : The Past SIX Presidents Have “Banned Immigrants” – TruthFeed and if you don't trust that source, here's another one: Six other times the US has banned immigrants | | Al Jazeera
I get it, the LEFT is in full assault against the President, but no need to be spreading falsehoods about what he's doing. You don't seem to get that this was a campaign promise he made to his voters and unlike most politicians, he is following through on exactly what he said he was going to do, unlike our last President who promised that people could keep their doctor.David Vaughn
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01-30-2017, 10:49 AM #3
Did a little more research: Jerry, maybe you should start questioning your news sources. Have you read the executive order? I just did. It marries up perfectly what this gentleman has stated: Obama’s administration made the “Muslim ban” possible and the media won’t tell you | Seth J. Frantzman
If you want to read the full text of the order, here it is: Full text of Trump's executive order on 7-nation ban, refugee suspension - CNNPolitics.com
I suggest you copy and paste the text into word and do word searches on the supposed "banned" countries. You will find that Syria was added to the list...all of the other countries were already a target based upon a law that President Obama signed.
This is exactly what "FAKE NEWS" is that the left says it's so worried about. What it really is, is that the mainstream media wants to CONTROL the news and sell a certain narrative, and guess what, they are losing and they don't like it.David Vaughn
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01-30-2017, 11:21 AM #4
David,
Allow me to use this smoking gun video of #NotMyPresident saying EXACTLY that he would ban muslims.
He says we HAVE NO CHOICE in the video. NO CHOICE.
Now he says its NOT a ban on Muslims mainly because in Don Trumps GOP you literally can say ANYTHING YOU WANT WHENEVER YOU WANT as long as it gets you WHAT YOU WANT.
The left is watching #NotMyPresident destroy a core belief of this country in a mere 8 days. He is endorsed by the KKK, David. He's a raging bigot. The left will keep him in check as best we can but he's got a lot of power and he is proving that he will use it to take away your rights and mine.---
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01-30-2017, 11:25 AM #5
Syria was added to the list so that refugee families who go through "extreme vetting" STILL can't come to this country to have a better life than the genocide that Don Trump's buddy (and hacking partner) Vlad Putin allows to continue.
You ever see this photo?

You wouldn't let THIS heartbroken family into the United States? They are fleeing genocide in Syria and have nowhere to go. Jordan is overloaded. Europe is taking in as many people as they can. But NONE get to come to the US (with extreme vetting) from now on.
Grow a soul David.---
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01-30-2017, 01:03 PM #6
Oh and stop it with the lecture on FAKE NEWS.
Your president says the New York Times is fake news.
If Don doesn't agree with you he will say and do ANYTHING to get you. That's the leader of the free world for you.---
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01-31-2017, 10:16 PM #7
0 out of 1 members found this post helpful.Jerry,
Here's some "fake news" from the New York Times: New York Times Publishes Fake News About Rick Perry and Department of Energy - Hit & Run : Reason.com
There are 50 countries in the WORLD that have Muslim majorities...only 7 are affected by the travel ban. 14%!!! So, he's really banning all Muslims, eh? Get a grip...you obviously didn't read the executive order and see that he was only enforcing a law signed by the previous President and it is a "TEMPORARY" ban in order to put better safeguards in place.
You see, he's fulfilling a campaign promise..something your "guy" was horrible at doing. Remember, if you "like your Doctor, you can keep your Doctor?" How did that work out.
Thus far, Trump is doing a better than average job in his first two weeks. LOVE his pick for SCOTUS today...absolutely perfect pick. Give me 5 more of those guys and life will be great for the next 40 years in this country. No more legislating from the bench.
How's this for a novel approach. All of these people immigrating here are fine and dandy, but why don't they fix the shit holes that they're coming from? I'm perfectly fine with LEGAL immigration (I'm married to an immigrant), but if you come to this country, you better have a way to support yourself...if not, sorry, go back to your country of origin.Last edited by David Vaughn; 02-02-2017 at 09:26 AM.
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02-01-2017, 09:01 AM #8
You mean kind of like Canada, Australia, New Zeland and other countries that are doing fairly well and have stable economies? Why didn't we think about that one?I'm perfectly fine with LEGAL immigration (I'm married to an immigrant), but if you come to this country, you better have a way to support yourself...if not, sorry, go back to your country of origin.
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02-01-2017, 06:40 PM #9
Exactly Tracy. At one time you had to prove you could support yourself...that's not the case anymore.
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02-01-2017, 09:02 PM #10Junior Member
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Fake news, you say? Then you quote a screed from a publication with a self-professed libertarian bias. It's not exactly earth shattering that they criticize the NYT. Or is it "fake news" when the fact that Trump's nominee for head of, what is that name (?), oh, Dept. of Energy, revealed his surprise that the DOE regulated more than just oil?
I know there are 50 states in the US, and many more counties, but the US is one country, and Muslims are part of an indisputable minority…



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