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    "TV Speaker" Vs Soundbar

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    Slim soundbars designed to match the depth and design of a flat-panel TV are all the rage these days. Speaker manufacturers are trying every trick in the book to eke out more dynamic ability and bass response from these super-slim bars, but do these products really need to be as thin as they are?

    At CEDIA, at least two manufacturers (owned by the same conglomerate, I might add) say no. Both SpeakerCraft and Proficient Audio showed off a "TV Speaker" design: an all-in-one, active speaker that's meant to be mated with a TV but uses a full-depth cabinet.

    According to SpeakerCraft, 80 percent of TVs are still placed on a shelf or in a cabinet, as opposed to being mounted on a wall. If the speaker is just going to sit on a shelf above or below the TV, then it really doesn't need to be so thin, they argue. Thus the introduction of the $699 CS3 TV Speaker (pictured above). Here's the press release:

    SpeakerCraft today announced the shipping release of its all-new SpeakerCraft CS3 TV Speaker, an under-TV sound system that makes Flat-Panel TVs sound as good as they look. With powerful loudspeakers, built-in subwoofers and DSP technology housed in one beautifully designed cabinet, the SpeakerCraft CS3 easily connects to TVs in a matter of minutes.

    SpeakerCraft engineers focused on improving male and female vocals, increased higher listening levels for larger rooms and much deeper bass. The twin 5¼” woofers in a tuned enclosure produce low-end bass that flat panel TVs just cannot deliver.

    The SpeakerCraft CS3 TV Speaker is not just for movies and TV watching. SpeakerCraft’s engineers also added Bluetooth®, easily connecting the customer with their music library from a Smartphone, tablet or computer instead of traditional broadcast music sources.

    According to SpeakerCraft’s Keith Marshall, “Every TV out there has one unfortunate characteristic. A weakness that has been there for so long, most consumers have just come to accept it as ‘the way it is’. And that weakness is the sound. Our TV Speaker presents a uniquely SpeakerCraft solution for the people who don’t want to incur the expense of a room full of speakers and AVR receiver but still want hi-resolution sound to go with their Flat-Panel TV.”

    Marshall added, “It makes no difference if the TV has the smallest or largest screen available, or is budget or luxury priced. Despite dramatic improvements in picture quality over time, all television sets have consistently under-delivered on the quality of the sound. With the CS3, that long standing, ever-present problem has now been solved.”

    The SpeakerCraft CS3 sounds as good as it does because it’s built with premium SpeakerCraft components in an optimized, bass-reflex enclosure, with custom DSP electronics and bi-amplification. These include two 5¼” long-throw subwoofers; four 2½” midranges and two 1” soft dome tweeters, with midrange-tweeter-midrange positioning for optimum imaging.

    More than ample power is assured by four 20W (RMS) amplifiers. This bi-amplified configuration provides 80 Watt RMS (total). 20 watts are assigned to each of the 5 ¼” low frequency drivers. The other pair of amps delivers 20W X 2 for the mid-ranges and tweeters. An on-board limiter protects the woofers from being over-powered while at the same time maintaining clean and undistorted sound, even at high output levels. A proprietary DSP circuit provides a virtual surround sound-field, the surround effect being switchable by the provided remote.

    A few hours later, Proficient Audio announced a strikingly similar-looking product called the MaxTV MT2 ($599, pictured below), and here's that press release:

    Proficient Audio Systems today announced the all-new MaxTV™ MT2 under-TV sound system. The Proficient MaxTV is uniquely designed to bring high fidelity audio performance to flat panel TVs.

    According to Proficient’s Loren Maldoon, “It’s rare to find a TV with good sound. And I’ve never heard one with great sound. It’s no wonder. The limited space available inside a TV cabinet has been a barrier to good on-board TV sound for years. Now with today’s flat panels, it would be difficult for TV designers to even consider great sound in a TV as a goal. The only real way to get high quality TV sound today is with an outboard solution. But, for many situations a full-blown home theater sound system isn’t practical. A lot of soundbars just don’t begin to make it to the level we would consider acceptable. So, we approached the challenge from a whole new direction. We asked, what if we designed a sound system that was a platform for the display? The answer was Proficient MaxTV. Our first TV Speaker, the MT2 is perfect for people who want great sound but don’t want to fill their room with speakers and electronics.”

    “In creating Proficient MaxTV, our design and engineering team set up performance goals, focusing on voice intelligibility, dynamic range and tonal accuracy. This is important for movies and TV, and, is also essential for music listeners. Given this approach, the MT2 really sounds great with music program material too,” continued Maldoon. In addition, there is a selectable DSP to enhance the sound field.

    MaxTV includes Bluetooth so end-users can stream music from their smartphones, tablets or computers. They can even up the experience of watching video or playing games on those devices by streaming the audio to the MT2.”

    The Proficient MaxTV contains four 2½” midranges and two 1” soft dome tweeters, front-mounted in a stereo Mid-Tweeter-Mid configuration. The left and right speaker systems are in their own internal enclosures. The powerful low end is produced by two 5¼” down-firing subwoofers, each in their own tuned and vented.

    MaxTV uses four 20 Watt (RMS) digital amplifiers. The four amps are run in a 2 channel bi-amplified configuration. The two 5 ¼” low frequency drivers are each direct coupled to their own 20 Watt amp. The remaining two 20 Watt amps each drive the left and right front firing drivers. An on-board limiter protects the woofer’s driver being over-powered and maintains clean and undistorted sound, at any output level.
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    Proficient Audio actually did an effective demo, switching between the speakers in a 32-inch LG TV and the MT2. The room was huge, and the MT2 served up an impressively loud, full sound.

    What do you think? Can the TV Speaker gain traction, or are buyers simply too enamored with the slim profile of the soundbar....even if they plan to simply set it on a shelf?
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    Anything is better than built-in TV speakers...even a soundbar!
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    I've never heard TV speakers that sound as good as even the cheapest soundbar.

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    Totally agree Jerry.
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    I bet my work computer's satellite speaker system would sound better than any speakers, built into a flat panel display. There's just not enough room in there for decent speakers.

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    Maybe my description wasn't clear, but these speakers aren't built into the TV. These are standalone speakers, like soundbars but with a larger, deeper cabinet. They're designed to sit on a shelf above or below your TV.
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    That design looks suspiciously similar to the big ZVOX's. I have one and love it. Think two bookshelf speakers in one cabinet. Audiophile quality, to quote a magazine.
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