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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracy Rainwater View Post
    People either don't know about ARC, love it because it works for them, or absolutely hate it for being a buggy mess. I'm happy to hear that you are part of the latter group.

    I don't have a need for it in my system but like the concept.
    Well, I have now shut ARC back off. I think it was causing issues even though the control stuff was turned off. (my understanding is AppleTV doesn't play nice even though you tell it not to enable the CEC control parts) I would turn on everything and at least once per day AppleTV would have no sound and I'd go back to my DVR input and have a nice blue screen that sometimes I could fix by toggling the power button on the comcast DVR, and sometimes I'd just have to pull its power and plug it back in. Since I turned it off things seem to be behaving for the last day or so right now.

    The other thing I turned on at the same time but don't think it was the cause is "Pure Direct" mode in the VT60 which enables 4:4:4 signals. As near as I can tell, the ATV, DVR, and 4k disc player all seem to be able to output 4:4:4 because the TV says the option will actually be grayed out if the incoming signal isn't capable of it. I may or may not re-enable it after a couple days of no problems but we'll see.

    I'm thinking the ARC etc. options were the cause though because I think I had the blue display screen before I swapped the receiver out on Saturday and I hadn't turned on the Pure Direct option until after I swapped them but ARC was on. Anyway, lesson learned, if it's not broken don't fix it. I'm not going to bother connecting a Toslink back up, we just don't need the internal TV apps anymore anyway between the ones on the X800 and the AppleTV there's no reason and they haven't been updated in a couple years anyway.
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    Well, I got the blue screen again, but it seems to be an HDMI handshake issue, maybe Comcast messed up something in a recent update since it also started happening before I swapped out the receiver. Seems like just toggling the power button the DVR (standby vs on not actually off) fixes it or even just shutting the TV and receiver off and trying again. I think the ARC/CEC thing with AppleTV was responsible for losing sound in that though.

    Also I just spent about 90 minutes playing with 2ch music via Spotify and lossless rips sent via Airplay2 to the new receiver. I have to say, wow I finally have a great music setup and am probably going to be listening a lot more in the living room. Radio stations through the Tuner I've decided will never sound decent in there (can't get a good clear signal).

    I've decided that going with Denon and getting Auro3D and the Auro3D upmixer vs. the Marantz SR6013 which doesn't have that was actually a good choice. I was reading the it does a good job with 2ch music and yeah they weren't kidding. Dolby Surround and DTS:NeuralX were too in you face fake surround. Auro3D upmixer turned it into sounding like a concert without sounding fake. Bumped the sub channel about 4dB and it's perfect. Solid from the bass through the treble. Straight 2ch in "Pure" mode with no sub (which shuts off any crossover on the L/R making them "full range") sounds ok but is a bit boomy due to wall reinforcement so I probably won't use it much.

    I was really impressed with the Chane 2.4's performance on their own like that though. I did actually have to check and make sure the sub was not playing when I first did it. Guess I chose well with MTM config for the main L/R instead of a satellite T/M style like I nearly did.
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    So, I asked for and received an AC Infinity T9 for Christmas to keep the new Denon cool. Unfortunately after I hastily asked for it (didn't do enough research, was trying to fill Christmas gift ideas list, didn't exactly expect to get it) I realized it's already getting pretty warm on the underside of the shelf the center channel sits on with at least 10" of clearance. I don't figure making it warmer by putting something that will actively blow warm air up there is actually a good idea. So it needs to go back and going to get the T10 that exhausts out the front instead. The funny thing about this is I actually got TWO of them no less lol. My wife didn't realize my sister ordered it off the list and so she ordered one at the last minute. So my sister is just going to return the one she bought and we'll exchange the one my wife bought on Amazon.
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    AC Infinity T10 will be here Sunday. Hope it's as quiet as people say it is. Definitely want to get the heat out though and the front exhaust will do that.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078PQJSRY
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    I haven't heard of this particular product and company. I need something like this for the AVR is our family room. Thanks

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    I think Ralph has one of these in his system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracy Rainwater View Post
    I haven't heard of this particular product and company. I need something like this for the AVR is our family room. Thanks
    Yeah was reading about them on AVS forum.


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    My massive living room upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by Tracy Rainwater View Post
    I haven't heard of this particular product and company. I need something like this for the AVR is our family room. Thanks
    It's installed. Time to test it out. Used some recommendations I found in forums for settings.



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    Figured I'd report back. The cooling fan seems to be working well. I have it in smart mode set to a 90F temp for when to run. Have the fan speed set to 2/5 max so what happens is you can set a 2 or 4 degree buffer window. In auto but not smart mode it would wait until it hits 90 then kick on and keep running at whatever the max speed is set (in this case speed 2) until it's 2 or 4 degrees below 90 depending on which choice is used. I have the buffer set to 2. In smart mode this means it actually comes on at 88 instead of 90 BUT it runs at the lowest fan speed which is almost unnoticeable except slightly if it's really quiet. It will only go to the max selected speed if it actually hits 90+. So far it always bounces between 87-88 even when playing action movies at -10 to -12 below reference during extended loud action scenes pushing all 7 channels (Matrix lobby scene, ready player one race scene, etc). Definitely MUCH cooler than before.
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    Also, ordered the SVS soundpath subwoofer feet. They showed up today. I'll be putting them on over the weekend and re-running Audyseey. I'll probably do some before/after dB measurements before the audyssey run just to see if there's any noticeable effect on the volume itself and/or sound qualities out of the box. Also figured out my Comcast blue screen issue is definitely some weird HDMI handshake issue. It did start happening before the new receiver so I think it's a bug on their end and not the new receiver bringing it out. Also I found an easier fix (well, faster). Toggle the power on the TV.

    Also did one other tweak. I implemented "cascading crossovers" in my sub setup. I think it improved dialogue clarity a bit and definitely improved the mid-bass chest thump areas a bit. If you're not familiar with it, the process basically involves running Audyssey or whatever configuration you want to run, then setting the crossover setting on the back of your sub and the LPF setting in the receiver to both match the crossover point on your main speakers. In my case this is 80. Normally the sub would be left wide open (LFE setting on SVS subs) to accept whatever the AVR sends it, and the LPF in the AVR normally defaults to 120.
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